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Faust:
Yep!  Windows Office now "bargain" price of $250, get it before it gets even more rip off.  :rolleyes:
It's ok though, I defaced some of their calenders advertising MS with permanent marker.  Now they are all better.  

The co op is still cool.  Cheap text books (although if its not a text book it's less expensive to get it elsewhere.)  

 
quote:also you know up till last year their inventory system was run on SunOS4.2
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Our computer science dept is running sun 5.9 so I pity anyone running anything less than that POS... but! they are now being upgraded to red hat 8.0 boxes! yay!

 
quote:well you know they replaced their system last year, what with? have three guesses.
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Theres no smiley/frowny face so I cant tell if it was Linux or Windows.  Im a pessimist so I say Windows.  Meh...  they still have cheap text books, even if their IT department are sell outs.

Calum:
realist more like.
i left before they changed so i don't know for sure but i am fairly confident their plans were to replace it with microsoftware...

Faust:
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Damn you co-op your bastion of resistance against the forces of corporate evil is crumbling.  But the girl at the front counter of mine is cute so I'll still go.  ;)
And like I said, cheap books.

lazygamer:

quote:Originally posted by Faust:
BTW exactly what would the cost be of a 10 year old hacking your PC and stealing thousands of credit card numbers?  THIS is where the real "cost" of Windows comes in.  Compared to it's TCO/crackability (thus "liability") $500 for an OS is nothing.
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Very good point! But about credit card theft, wouldn't that be out of the realm of script kiddies(cracker stuff basically)? ESPECIALLY against corporate/business targets. I would imagine that as insecure as wind0ze is, alot of corporate/buisness wind0ze boxes are quite script kiddy secure. This is because administrator > common mass market n00b end user.  

Calum:

quote:Originally posted by lazygamer:


Very good point! But about credit card theft, wouldn't that be out of the realm of script kiddies(cracker stuff basically)? ESPECIALLY against corporate/business targets. I would imagine that as insecure as wind0ze is, alot of corporate/buisness wind0ze boxes are quite script kiddy secure. This is because administrator > common mass market n00b end user.      
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uh huh, and you heard that at which microsoft seminar? "oh no, no ten year old script kiddie could possibly topple our oh so secure system, well there may be one or two flaws (rich person style laugh) but the likelihood of a system being compromised by anyone less than an extreme professional is beyond a joke and our developers are making windows more secure every day"

yeah right, and what motive do microsoft have for making windows more secure*? nobody has told me one reason yet. there are many reasons however for keeping windows insecure and all of them involve money.

And how come whenever you hear of some supercybercriminal "hacker" he always turns out to have been using a 486 and have no training? he's just cobbling together stuff he found on the web! tons of people could do it! the only reason it doesn't happen more often is that most people can't be fucked to waste their time bringing down windows systems!

your point can be answered in two ways. firstly, many companies hide their windows network behind *nix gateways, this makes them secure from anything on the other side of the gateway. So they have windows stuff, but they are shielded by a nice secure *ix. secondly, if they only had windows, no amount of good administration would be able to help them. If your system is full of holes, and it is closed source (ie you cannot fix the holes and recompile it) then you are fucked, that's it, the end.


* assuming it to be technicaly possible, considering their long catalogue of "legacy" issues (read: mistakes)

[ May 15, 2003: Message edited by: Calum: hopelessly outnumbered ]

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