Apple Doomed?

[Pissed_Macman]

I dropped by ihateapple.com and this is the article they were linking to on their main page. Kind of worrisome. The first page seemed generally agreeable, but there's some disturbing stuff starting on the second page.

http://www.overclockers.com/articles676/index.asp

[ January 02, 2003: Message edited by: Macman: Mac Tro0per / boB ]

[rtgwbmsr]

Typical PC user Mac-bashing. They are just jealous because nobody loves their PCees.

Where did their stats and information come from? Their ass? You couldn't tell where they came from by reading it.

[trc3]

quote:Originally posted by The Muffin Man:
Typical PC user Mac-bashing. They are just jealous because nobody loves their PCees.

Where did their stats and information come from? Their ass? You couldn't tell where they came from by reading it.

Thats exactly what I was thinking, I really doubt apple is going anywhere, anytime soon.  You gotta remember these windows loving assholes have been saying apple is going down hill for years; but what has come of it?  Not much except a bunch of second rate anti-mac sites that spew the same garbage about one button mice and no games to play.  And as much as I would love to have os 10 on my x86 laptop, I dont see it happening any time in the near future.  As for apple being a monopoly, that is complete bullshit, as far as I remember a monopoly is when a company has complete control over a entire industry/service/whatever.  Its quite obvious that apple doesn't have complete control over the entire computer industry.  They may have complete control over what they have created or put out, but that is not a monopoly, that is creative control.

[xyle_one]

my mac is a tool. my pc is a tool. my pc is a tool that i have to make work, involving other tools, and end up dropping another couple hundered bucks into it. my mac works, unlike EVERY windows pc i have used. as for style. i would rather look at the g4 box than look at any other pc case. oh yeah. my pc is a tool that likes to change the way it works, making it difficult for me to use it, plus it likes to tease me and start to work, then crash. im sure my pc is laughing inside everytime this happens.

i cant see how these people can really say ms makes a better product. osX is far superior to XP. there is no question about it. as far as speed goes. my mac boots up faster than my windows computer. my mac stays up longer. and it just out performs all of my computers. i wish i could "hack" their site and populate it with a ShitLoad of pro apple material.

[ January 02, 2003: Message edited by: Xyle: Mac Commando ]

[rtgwbmsr]

Hopefully some people reading it will type "fuckapple.com" into their inferior browser...and then find out what's really going on.

[Interscope]

Although I seriously doubt the possibility of ever having Mac OSX on x86 I would go out and buy it as soon as it came out.

But I guess I'm should use Darwin if I would want to have a powerfull OS on my computer =)

[Pissed_Macman]

They were comparing Apple's profits with Dell's profits, starting in 1995. Well who had even heard of Dell in 1995? Now whenever you turn on the TV theres the Dell dude telling us to buy this crap. No wonder Dell has started smaller than Apple and gotten larger, no one had heard of them and now their commercials harass us! And then there's the fact that you can't compare a hardware company with a hardware and software company, not to mention the fact that Dell has support from dozens of other corporations including Microsoft while Apple is practically alone!

[psyjax]

HAHAH! Mhz is a FUCKING JOKE!!!!

Im on a G4 400Mhz Ti Laptop. It runs fabulous!

What the fuck is 2Ghz for?

Jacking off to your PIV

fuck windows, fuck intel, fuck PC's

[slave]

fuck PCs?  So I guess the Mac isn't a "Personal computer" then is it?

I agree mhz is a generally dumb way to measure speed.  I read something in MIT Tech review about clockless CPUs that will be much faster than today's computers but measuring their speed in terms of "Mhz" is meaningless.  I do stand by the opinion however that you can't get more bang for your buck than a self-built AMD-based PC running Linux.  I built mine for $1400 dollars and that was a year ago.  It has a geforce 4 and a 1.73 (2100+) Athlon CPU.  Very fast.  Doom 3, etc. will run nicely, and I won't have to worry about upgrading it for years and years.  Macs aren't bad, and I agree the excessive power some intel-based computers have in them is pretty meaningless for today's applications, but that doesn't make the x86 based pc horrible.  I think Windows is the main reason behind the perceived crappiness.  That and shoddy hardware some OEMs put in their PCs to cut down on the price.

[xyle_one]

quote: fuck PCs? So I guess the Mac isn't a "Personal computer" then is it?

i think the term "PC" is used generically for x86 machines running windows. Which is rather funny actually. Didn't Apple coin the term "PC"?? I do not  know my computer history that well, so i could be way off.

[cocoamix]

My standard answer as always:
More MHz on a Wintel just means you suck faster.

Bang for you buck? I'd say my being prefectly happy with a Blue and White G3 made in 1999 was a good investment, thank you very much.

Maybe that's why Apple doesn't sell as many computers. People can get so much life out of them.

[ January 02, 2003: Message edited by: cocoamix ]

[preacher]

quote:Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
fuck PCs?  So I guess the Mac isn't a "Personal computer" then is it?

I agree mhz is a generally dumb way to measure speed.  I read something in MIT Tech review about clockless CPUs that will be much faster than today's computers but measuring their speed in terms of "Mhz" is meaningless.  I do stand by the opinion however that you can't get more bang for your buck than a self-built AMD-based PC running Linux.  I built mine for $1400 dollars and that was a year ago.  It has a geforce 4 and a 1.73 (2100+) Athlon CPU.  Very fast.  Doom 3, etc. will run nicely, and I won't have to worry about upgrading it for years and years.  Macs aren't bad, and I agree the excessive power some intel-based computers have in them is pretty meaningless for today's applications, but that doesn't make the x86 based pc horrible.  I think Windows is the main reason behind the perceived crappiness.  That and shoddy hardware some OEMs put in their PCs to cut down on the price.

I completely agree with you about the AMD and linux being the best value. Now I do use Intel based machines, but none of these use Microsoft products, and all have some flavor of *nix on them . Also none have processor speeds higher than 433mhz. They do their jobs and they do them well. I just am sick of being categorized by mac users as an idiotic PC user when I am so much more.

[choasforages]

apple dieing?
what next, are you going to claim *BSD is dying too?
i though this was the microsoft eradication society, not slashdot.


as for macosx for x86, the closest you might get would be openstep.

[Fett101]

I just need to post todays comic.



[ January 03, 2003: Message edited by: fett101 ]

[psyjax]

Sorry, for my previous post  

I was being overly dramatic and inflamatory. Although, most of you kinda got what I was aiming for.

Yes WINDOZE PC's

Hey, I don't catagorize PC users, they are fine in my book, it's winoids and lozer skrip Kiddie hardware junkies that get my goat. The same folks who still think Mac's have black and white screens and that you need a 2Ghz PIV to run solitair.

In any case, my athalon 1700XP with gforce4 was about 400bucks. It's a great toy, love RedHat 8, but it's not a replacement for any of my Mac's. I simply don't enjoy usining it as my main computer.