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US/Iraq
SpeeDFreaK:
I too am pissed off about this Iraq thing, but something i've wondered about how long ago was it that they started this BS about a war with Iraq? I don't think it was too long ago, because I don't remember them making too much of a fuss about it in June. And does he no longer have to go through congress to declare war, or was that a part of the USA PATRIOT act?
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And why the hell are we always is some kind of war!? It looks like every time the economy is about to turn south, we go to war with someone or something and people always end up being killed just to sustain the financial security of the United States for a little bit longer. I truly believe we are going to invade Iraq soon for nothing more than their oil. All of those lives lost just to increase the oil reserves in the soon to be 51st US state.
I'm done venting for the time being.
lazygamer:
Hard to do. If the US ever over stepped their bounds, showing that they have gone power hungry, then the rest of the world would realize this and destroy them.
I don't know how you could safely conquer all those oil reserves without finger pointing by everyone else.
Don't worry, very little innocent US personal has died in the most recent conflicts(recent as in after Vietnam). They tend to be armed and trained better then everyone they fight(cuz they fight poor people).
KernelPanic:
Basically it doesnt matter what we think about the US going to Iraq, or anything else for that matter. There is no person or country to stop them and they know this. In fact America tries (covertly) to stop there being another 'power block' in the world. They do it with Europe and to an extent in the middle east.
An example of them hindering europe's independance is our EU rapid reaction force. This is a pool of european soldiers for, as the name suggest, rapid reaction without needing other help. But suprise suprise, before everything was complete it was 'decided' that there would have to be a body to lease with NATO. Effectively this force has now just become Nato's 1st Europe. division.
psyjax:
Folks you want to know what's up with the US and Iraq BS?
Read some chomskey, this fucker has it all straight:
Here is a bit on his ideas on US policy, which relates to our current stance with Iraq.
http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/chomskyapr98.htm
This is a bit on Iraq.
http://www.zmag.org/forums/chomiraqfor.htm
This was written in 1998, but is still relevant to this situation.
http://www.zmag.org/CrisesCurEvts/Iraq/replyiraq.htm
So there
Chomsky, for those who don't know, is a plitical thinker and professor of lingustics at MIT. A really smart guy who you may not agree with, but he's hard to argue because of his strong reliance on Facts.
KernelPanic:
Yeah he is getting pretty big over here, I quite like his books. Except 9-11 which was written just for the sdake of it.
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