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Kintaro:
I was talking about the "Legal Loopholes" that make it legal. But its still stolen!

Doctor V:
Nope, its not stolen.

Here's my examples:

A man walks into an art museum, walks up to the Mona Lisa painting, takes it off the wall, puts it in a box and takes it home.

He stole the painting.

A man walks into an art museum, walks up to the Mona Lisa painting, takes out his camera, takes a picture of it, turns the photo into a poster and hangs it up on his wall.

He didn't steal the painting, the painting is still in the art museum.  Nobody has lost anything.

flap:

quote:Originally posted by Stryker:


because you can't get it off the radio (or television or other public network)
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So? I can get software from a friend. Why should that be punished?
(See previous post for an explanation of why copying + sharing is not "stealing")

lazygamer:
Errr you mean in-correcting your ways!  ;)

Ok imagine this.

Open source=Natural

Open source freeware that you can make money off of if done right=natural

Closed source=Un-Natural

non-freeware Closed source=Can start corruption that breeds shit like Microsoft.

non-freeware open source software=Natural, and would make people like Richard Stallman happy. Open sourcers are not pirates in the end.

pirating as because you do not support non-freeware closed source software=A form of protest.

So when I pirate, I am refusing to take part in supporting closed source, as I would rather pay nothing, then pay something and only serve to keep it alive.

When the day comes when there is ONLY freeware open source, and pay open source, I will be an evil leech freeloader. Currently, I am a protester.

I am not some underground rebel, I am just a freeloader. However, these arguments which I use to explain my actions aren't hollow. I am only a freeloader because I don't have the spirt of the underground rebel at my heart, the arguments for both are the exact same though.


What about pirating to damage Microsoft? Well I agree that does not harm them. The problem is not pirating, it's pirating and not furthering the alternative cause. So if I am a Linux dual booter who wants Wind0ze XP(for compatiblity with a few things), I will harm the Linux iniative more if I pay $300 for it, then if I pirated it and gave MS no money. If I were just a wind0ze pirate, I would not be aiding the Linux iniative because I woulden't use Linux.

Summary:You must limit the resources of the enemy AND bolster the resources of your ally, or the enemy will win everytime.

So if want the music industry changed, it makes no difference whether I pirate or boycott. Just as long as I support a new, by artists for artists underground music industry, that is desperately trying to survive.

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