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So let me get this straight. 15 insepctors
Annorax:
An accidental explosion wont set off the few NUKES Saddam's got sitting around, but I'll bet he's got shittons of conventional warheads that would go off and fuck the place up pretty good... and besides, if a secondary explosion did enough damage to the nukes, wouldnt they become a radiation hazard?????
Pissed_Macman:
We should be more concerned with biological weapons than A-bombs.
Calum:
quote:Originally posted by choasforages:
yeah, i hate saddam ALOT , i also don't like the chinese government, hell, i don't like most countrys government. but saddam has to go, but we should be careful. sure we could kick saddams ass, but what about the rest of those sucidal motherfuckers. you take one on, the rest will probably follow. besides the first thing i thought after 9/11, is to take a cruise missile, and blow up that shitty holy rock in mecca. call it an attack on their "symbols", becuase, well they said that the world trade center's were a symbol of the U.S.'s power. but that would piss too many U.S. muslims off, as well as destroy a "world" history item, damned complications of a good idea
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this is racist and backward. you are implying that every muslim in the world was involved in the destruction of your pretty towers. don't you care about justice? don't you want to hold the actual perpetrators of the september 2001 tragedy to account, rather than blindly taking 'revenge' against a race or a country that you perceive needs to be taught a lesson?
how come your country doesn't give two hoots when other innocents are slaughtered? china has been illegally occupying nepal for decades, and all you can say is you don't like china?
it's this sort of attitude that america must grow out of now it has big man's guns.
choas, i am sure you are not as simplistic as i imply, so do not take it personally, but i bet a lot of other people really are this racist and backward.
also, i must mention, void main, don't take what i am about to say personally since you, and i am sure many others like you, have a well considered attitude towards foreign policy even if i don't happen to agree with you 100% on it (and why should we agree? we are essentially bound to disagree, since we come from different countries!). That aside i honestly think that there are too many americans (and too many with their fingers on the button i bet) who think it's their god given right to blow parts of the world up until the whole planet is one big united states of america (or one big 'ex-weapons-of-mass-destruction factory', whichever comes first). If Asimov or Heinlein had written what is happening now in the world in a novel 50 years ago, it would have rightly been thought of as tragic science fiction.
[ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]
voidmain:
Calum, you are almost making the same mistake as the person you are calling racist. Many people here lump all Americans into a single group because of the radical views of a few. It really bothers me when people do this, just like it probably bothers the good muslims that they were lumped in with a few extremist terrorists.
But we've been through all of this before. I am pretty sure I said earlier that I believe Saddam is not good for Iraq or the rest of the world. I believe he is a threat to us, and he has proven to be a threat to his own people. I hope that the people of Iraq uprise against him, but that isn't likely to happen. I believe Saddam does have to go one way or another. I certainly don't believe the answer is to drop a big nuke in the middle of Iraq as the people of Iraq are just caught in the middle of all of this and deserve a better life.
We all have different views of things, it doesn't seem that anyone is going to change any other persons opinions about things so there really is no point in discussing it as far as I am concerned.
And in this case when I say I am upset, I don't mean with you, but with the political talk in general.
[ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
Calum:
you misconstrue me, which is what i was hoping to avoid with my disclaimer.
i do not for one moment wish to lump all americans in with each other. it's a continent sized country and i'd be mad to think they were all android like and thought the same as each other. i am only saying that there are many who probably do have too proprietorial (?) a view of the world.
the USA is quite geographically isolated from the rest of the world and as you point out yourself, it is easy for people with limited experience to simply apply second hand opinions that they have not tested to satisfaction for themselves.I was careful to say that i think a lot of americans believe they have too much claim on the rest of the world. For all i know, many more (or many less) may have a totally different outlook. I haven't been to the USA and i do not pretend to have anything other than second hand experience of americans myself. void main, you are much more qualified than me to say what large numbers of US citizens opine.
Also, i think you and i have got over our bickering and i think that as long as people listen to what each other are saying, that discussion can move forward.
Also, i didn't really mean to say choas was racist, but what he says sounds very close to some nasty racist things i have heard people (usually echoing somebody else) say, which did strike me as very racist indeed. racism only hinders development and i think it should be made clear that racism of any sort has no place in the future.
[ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]
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