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No E3 for the Frogs
xyle_one:
stupid fucking people. First of all, do not talk shit about Calum. He is one of the few members here who actually posts valid, um, posts. And for anti-american views. I do not care. I am an american, but i am not going to tell you to 'git out my damn darn here landz. Most of the time I agree with Calums views on Americans, because, sadly, he is usually correct. It seems this country is overrun with arrogant, selfish morons, and alot of them have stepped on his toes. I have not read this entire thread, only peices here and there, so i will stop typing...
Siplus:
quote:I actually had a response to Siplus, but for some strange reason the post just won't post, same with this other response for that computers thread. I can't figure out why. I click the Add reply, and although it acts like it's sending the data and loading, NOTHING happens and it eventually just gives up. Seeing as I've had a change of heart, it does not matter what I have to say, but the computers thread matters! Is there a known bug with post content, that prevents it from being posted? Note: I am copying and posting from wordpad, but that shouldn't make a difference...
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ya, i get the same thing. are you using Mozilla? i get a "document contains no data"
quote:that's fucking pathetic, you yanks should be ahsmaed of yourselves.
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why should i be ashamed? i hate the french. i find this amusing
quote:and for those of you still wondering, WMD are what Iraq never had, and what the USA are now saying is irrelevant
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are you so sure there are no WMD in iraq? give the US time to see for sure. they have already found the 'mobile weapons labs' that they claimed iraq had
quote:odd because originally they said "we can't find any weapons of mass destruction in iraq, so let's tear the place up looking for them" (they should try looking for those weapons in the fucking USA, they'd damn well find them then), but now they seem to be saying "well, we still haven't found them, but who cares, we won, so let's stop looking, we are confident they are around here somewhere anyway".
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funny...i don't remember them saying they are going to tear up iraq. they removed sadam and his loyalists, freed the nation from tyranny (temporarily, cause i'm sure they will allow another dictator to take saddam's place eventually), and are trying to setup a new government (which is taking FOREVER). oh, and yes, we do have WMD in USA, they are called atomic bombs. it is legal for us to have them because we don't have the entire world trying to get us to prove we have distroyed all of them. i also never heard the second quote--where do you keep getting these from? i sure hope your not missquoting. that would be lying. i also find this amusing: you people (liberals, french, most of western Europe) kept saying 'give the inspections more time, give sadam more time, just give more time damnit.' yet now, with only a few months, you are being WORCE then we were before this 'war'. you want it NOW, and only NOW. hypocrits. we waited for a LONG time before we went in, perhaps you could show the same pacience?
quote:of course the important thing to note is that the world hates america, not americans.
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that statement makes no sence. Americans make up America, so if you hate one, you have the other. are you practicing your doublethink perhaps?
quote:Americans only get hated by the rest of the world in passing because they do not seem to care about changing the fact that the USA is the most immature bully in the world playground.
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first, give me an example of our immaturity! if we find a problem we can fix, we don't bitch about it for the next 4 decades, we FIX the problem!! NO, i DO NOT want to us to change our ways. if the rest of the world is too spineless to fix their own problems, then thank god we are here to fix them for you.
oh, and i hate coffee
quote:Bah bah, let's all vote away our rights so that we feel all safe. And in twenty years we won't care that the American government will still be treating it's citizens and the world like cattle, because it's not like we care now. And by then it will be "normal" and only a few left wing "radicals" will stand up for rights that most Americans don't even want nor abide by.
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i'm astonished. as far as i can see, it is the liberals (or, lefties, if you so disire) trying to take our rights away. such as the gun issue: demorats want to remove our right to own a gun that is given to us in our 2ed amendment. Right-wingers are trying to assure us of our rights, and that is why i think of my self as conservative and NOT liberal: because i value freedom
quote:it's only funny if your brain cells are so few that when they meet they are surprised to see each other.
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ha. ha. that was funny :rolleyes:
quote:<sarcasm>
and your picture really convinces me you are right. oh yes. i am very impressed by your superior yankee reasoning. i can't think of anything to counter your well thought out points.
</sarcasm>
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that picture was not trying to convince you of anything. was i saying anything that you would convinced of anything with? no, you're just a dumbass. i posted that b/c i remembered that picture when someone mentioned that quote. nothing more.
quote:no. i am not a troll.
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hmm..you are posting bullshit. trolls post bullshit. let's put 2 and 2 together now...
quote:yes right, i can see you lead by example.
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yes, he WAS trying to be respectable at first, but then our continued ramblings pissed him off. solo: i'm sorry for adding fuel to their flaming and continuing this pointless debate
quote:That is quite obviously a lie.
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how is that a lie?
quote:You remind me of void main in this respect.
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ya, you're right, he does.
quote:if you don't want to talk politics, then SHUT THE FUCK UP
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there is a difference between debating politics and posting bullshit. most of these "political" thread here are the latter.
quote: I think censorship is evil, and so should anybody with any sense at all.
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so you think that exposing 3-year-old children to porn, violent movies, foul language, and immoral people is not wrong? you have problems...censorship is not evil, but there are degrees of censorship that should never come into existence.
quote:The thing that pisses me off most is simply that of all the people who have said they do not want to talk about politics in here, every single one of them has talked about politics at length themselves. hypocrisy is another thing i am not too keen on on the whole...
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yup, i don't want to talk about politics here, but i CAN NOT LET your bullshit go unchallenged. i CAN NOT STAND reading what you people post, and i must do all that i can to stop it. staying silent will not help. i admit that what i'm doing isn't either, but it is better then remaining silent.
quote:Tell you what, if america is so big on free speech, how come every fucking american in this thread is telling people to get out of their country?
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because we don't like them. we don't want them here, they don't want to be here, so we are merely suggesting something that will make both of us happy. we are not goign to force them to leave. we are not goign to show upto their homes with guns and forfully kick them out of america. we are suggesting and hoping they will agree to it. it would still be their choice.
quote:edit: christ i know i am shooting myself in the foot here but:
quote:Go to a place where you will not have a quick and speedy trial.
how does a speedy trial have anything to do with freedom and justice? a speedy trial usually means the court cannot be bothered to hear the facts, and often means that stereotypes and prejudices, rather than the real facts, will decide the case. I for one prefer to live in a country where the death penalty has been abolished for being too barbaric, and where people do not put their trust in the ability of their firearms to kill and maim each other.
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hmm...where do i begin? a speedy trial: meaning that we will not have to rott in jail for years before we are brought before a judge? is that what you mean? if that is the case, then i want a speedy trial. oh, and the death penilty: i do not want ANY portion of my taxmoney going the expenses of housing, food, clothing, health, or any other aspect of a mass murderer!! why pay for them the rest of their lives? they are not contributing to society being in jail, and we can not trust them IN society, so i think they should leave our world to burn in hell, instead of rotting in jail.
quote:rrelevant but true: not in California you can't, in California it is illegal to wear cowboy boots unless you own at least two cows.
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LOL. haha, that's stupid. but i'm sure that it is NOT enforced. if it is, you can always challenge it in court, and i'm sure that the law would be declared unconstitional
quote:Sure, all other countries are anti-democratic. You know, we have a joke left from old USSR slogans - it sounds like "Soviet trains are the trainest trains of all other trains". Now change the word "Soviet" on "US" and "train" on "democracy" - reminds of anything?
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no. it doesn't. not "all" other countries are undemocratic. that is not true. but we do have third-world countries like iran, sudi arabia, cuba who are all undemocratic.
quote:You don't like anti-americanism (or how it's called)? And what if I tell you I am damn pissed off by US gvrmnt acting on Chechnya "problem", huh? your government didn't admit the Chechnya terrorists to be terrorists before 9.11. and that happened when you needed Russian support in the war against international terrorism. You guys got used to a simple formula - "When an American is killed - it's a crime, when a Russian is killed - it's a fight for independence". And who supplied Afghanistan terrorists with Stingers and other weaponry to fight USSR? Me? And now they're using these AA missiles (or rockets? correct me if I'm wrong) against you. What an irony. hehe.
And you still think your country is the best?
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i like my country better then yours. i'm saying that it IS better then russia, i just like my country better. oh, and we supported afghanistan back then, we just didn't help them rebuild after the war and now they hate us.
quote:The entire American political system has to be the most corrupt organization (american spelling) on the planet ruled by big business. And while fuckwits like you continue to support that system and believe in that system, well, it's just what you deserve.
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there are more corrupt organizations. think of MS, Saddam's former government, cuba, N. Korea, oh, and can't forget the biggest communist state: china
lazygamer:
quote:i'm astonished. as far as i can see, it is the liberals (or, lefties, if you so disire) trying to take our rights away. such as the gun issue: demorats want to remove our right to own a gun that is given to us in our 2ed amendment. Right-wingers are trying to assure us of our rights, and that is why i think of my self as conservative and NOT liberal: because i value freedom
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When it comes to firearms, you Americans are totally on the right track! Well at least some of you are.
About liberals VS conservatives. What does it mean to be a conservative? To me, being a conservative means being some stuck up, middle-aged/old, "moral", unchanging, Christian person. I despise people like this, but maybe alot of conservatives don't fit this description.
Pissed_Macman:
Hey everybody shut up!! This political crap is a waste of time. We're all from a variety of different places, meaning we have a variety of different opinions and since humans are stubborn, ignorant bastards, none of you will every convince each other of anything. And even if you do convince one person of your opinion, what do you really get? American gun-totin' rodeo-ridin' meatheads, shutup and all you foreign hippy likes-to-hold-the-fact-that-our-system-sucks-and-
we're-uneducated-just-because-we-make-you-look-
puny-even-though-Americans-and-Europeans-are-
basically-the-same, SHUTUP!!!!!!! :mad: :mad:
EDIT: And Calum, if you'd read through the thread you'd know that I was JOKING when I started this topic, so don't quote things you don't know about.
[ June 06, 2003: Message edited by: Macman: HAS 1000 POSTS ]
edit: Macman, i edited your long hyphenated word because it was ruinging the page scansion. I'd like to point out i haven't edited anything else though since that's what free speech is all about.
[ June 06, 2003: Message edited by: Calum ]
Faust:
I notice that a lot of you seem to want to censor this thread. I also noticed that during the bombing of Iraq a lot of you started quoting John Stuart Mill as "proof" of the justice of your actions. Maybe some of you should actually read On Liberty (particularly the parts on censorship.) Especially considering it is one of the most crucial backbone pieces for any liberal democracy.
Siplus what is the similarity between porn and politics please? Don't use bad analogies. Oh btw the problem isn't that we can see kiddy porn - the problem is that there is kiddy porn. Censorship doesn't fix problems, it just sweeps them under the carpet.
To the "don't like it you can leave people." Get a fucking clue. I'm sure that the underclass in America can really afford to move too. How about if during Americas fight for independence from the British the British had said "don't like it? then leave." I'm "so" sure you would listen then.
Or how about the fact that America has now passed Russia in percentage of it's population in prison? Despite this you are still one of the most violent countries in the world. Have a look at the percentage of gun deaths per capita you have in America. In Australia I can own pistols. I can own rifles. I can defend my home, I can shoot animals. But in America if you want to buy a replica M16 go the fuck ahead! Oh and what was it that the Washington sniper used? In Australia we don't get mad snipers with replica M16's because we have the intelligence to tell redneck hicks to shut up when they start talking about rights. After the last violent murder in Australia we banned all guns that could be used for that sort of thing. After a shooting at a Melbourne University we banned non-sporting handguns. Why do you need a glock or an automatic to defend yourself? Shoot a burglar once or twice and he's either dead or not going anywhere. Your home is not a battleground for Gods sake! Oh wait this is America... At the end of the day as an Australian I don't have the freedom to own a gun I don't need. I also don't have the freedom to rape or to murder. Not all freedom is good.
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