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Linus is EVIL
Aloone_Jonez:
Refalm Rules
mobrien_12:
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Maybe because doing it to Samba, didn't screw it up for the developers, this has screwed it up for the developers. Tridgel violated a licence he very well knew about, which caused a major problem for Linux Kernel development. I doubt the no nothing loud mouth's of this forum have noticed how much slower it is now, because they don't have anything to do with it. However there has been a major drop in the amount of releases, and that is: tridgels fault.
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Tridgell presented exactly what he did.
Basically, he telnet'ed to the bitkeeper port, typed HELP, and read the plaintext commands that the bitkeeper server sends!
That's the extent of his "reverse engineering."
Read more.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/21/tridgell_bitkeeper_howto/
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050421023821174#comments
I think this whole thing got blown way way out of proportion.
muzzy:
I suspect he did more than that, but that's a very damn interesting part. What's the "help" command there for, if everything's so secret and nobody's allowed to interoperate?
Linus isn't pissed because Tridge reversed the thing, Linus is pissed because Larry's monopoly on BK protocol is crashing down. That's what this is about. Larry doesn't want anyone to use free client, when they could just pay for a license to get the work done. Larry wants a vendor lock-in, to cash people, and he well knows he can only achieve this by force.
This is a generic intellectual property problem. Larry thinks BitKeeper is his, and everyone who interoperates with it has to pay. Imagine this in context of instant messaging networks and it'll begin having more concrete feel to it.
Control of money and other things of value always cause such difficult problems.
Jenda:
--- Quote from: muzzy ---This is a generic intellectual property problem. Larry thinks BitKeeper is his, and everyone who interoperates with it has to pay. Imagine this in context of instant messaging networks and it'll begin having more concrete feel to it.
Control of money and other things of value always cause such difficult problems.
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Good point, Muzzy.
I think Tridge's good intentions kinda backfired on him, and the whole community is now shunning him. I'm on his side.
Even the reasult, all in all, is good for us on the long run. Now a big black spot on the white shield of Linux is cleared, because we no longer depend on proprietary software to develop our beloved kernel.
Calum:
--- Quote from: Refalm ---I pretty much owned you. Not only did you obviously use an online translator (I didn't), you refered to me as "Sie" which means you respect me.
I refered to you as "du", in which basically I'm saying that you're less mature :D
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is that how it works? i thought "du" was personal and "sie" was formal...
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