if i buy a pc from the shop down the road, one he made. he used parts from other companies. but he doesnt force me to buy a seahgate hdd as a second one, a qtec router and a pinnacle tv card. i usually buy parts that are slightly cheaper because i dont mind if somthing looks crap, or has a bit of swarf hanging out of a screw hole. if it does the job, its fine. ok i did buy a dead nice case. but it was cheap.