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« Reply #75 on: 18 June 2004, 06:14 »
yeah. my favorite system version for those ancient machines is system 4, though. I run 6.0.8 on my SE/30 and it's flawless... an amazing system. I run 7.5.5 on it when I use it for internet stuff, though.

Yes. an SE/30 on the internet. I've even used it for AIM.
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« Reply #76 on: 19 June 2004, 05:13 »
I had an SE/30 with 7.5.5 but I tore it apart.
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« Reply #77 on: 19 June 2004, 08:36 »
>sniff<

Poor SE/30
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« Reply #78 on: 19 June 2004, 11:05 »
quote:
Originally posted by insomnia:


Just accept the fact that different people have different needs.     ;)  

[ May 11, 2004: Message edited by: insomnia ]



Ultimately, this is what it should come down to.  For many people, however, pretty much any OS or hardware architecture will work for them, but they just may not realize this.  For me, Mac OS X is what works best for me.  Before I moved over to Mac OS X full time, I used a mix between Mac OS 8/9, Linux, and perhaps a little Windows (games, generally).  With the UNIX core of OS X, this allowed me many of the tools and programs I enjoyed with Linux, but the ease of a Mac.  When I first got OS X, I used it to set up a web server (Apache) with PHP and MySQL.  Because of the early betas, people had already made OS X installers for several of these utilities, which is much easier to get things running than having to wade through plenty of Linux documentation if something doesn't work quite right.

A guy I knew at a LUG was a command-line type of guy who rarely even used a GUI, so Linux worked well for him and he didn't need some colorful X or XP interface.  This is just what worked for him.

As far as a PPC emulator, I do not know if this will ever have any truly useful application, or if it will be seen more as an interesting toy for experimentation.  Maybe if I was at a job where I only had a PC, it might be nice to have an OS X emulator, but the emulator would need to be beefed up performance-wise for it to be even useable.  This is a major problem with x86 emulators, that emulation is a slow process.

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« Reply #79 on: 19 June 2004, 23:16 »
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Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
>sniff<

Poor SE/30



I know.  I really wish I did not do that.  I still have the CPU though (68030)  
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« Reply #80 on: 27 June 2004, 21:45 »
ive tried it.

slow but it works.

id buy a real mac but i cant afford to pay what they cost and i cant find any older ones in pawnshops or yardsales.
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« Reply #81 on: 4 October 2004, 08:32 »
Update.

PearPC 0.3.1 is out.  The emulated CPU has gotten MUCH faster - nearly 3 times as fast.  It also now uses SDL to speed up the graphics somewhat; certainly less laggy for me.  Also, they fixed the system timer - before, the clock ran too fast (20sec. = 1min.) and it would always report "0Mhz G3" in the About This Mac window.  Now, on my 2.8Ghz P4, it reports different numbers each bootup, ranging from 791-875Mhz (though it runs much slower than a real G3 at that speed).  I'd say I'm getting 200Mhz G3, or so.  Oh, and it no longer uses CPU time while emulated CPU is idle, so I can run it all the time without my fans throttling up while I'm sleeping.

There appears to be a setting to allow ID'ing as a G4, but it crashes while booting for me.

Although still no easy networking for Windows, no USB, no sound, no AltiVec, etc., this is still a big improvement.  I'm loving it!  
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« Reply #82 on: 4 October 2004, 21:57 »
No easy networking? It was a breeze for me to get it working.

http://dev.realistanew.com/win32net/

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« Reply #83 on: 4 October 2004, 11:28 »
I'm hoping PearPC will let a few PC people experiment with OS X, then come to the realization that they need the real thing.

Though my elitist side hopes Apple shuts this down come Tiger.  OS X is a pleasure that doesn't need to be tainted by ignorant masses.

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« Reply #84 on: 4 October 2004, 15:13 »
Good god. Hey, let's gas all the PC users while we're at it. A little genocide by the chose ones.

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« Reply #85 on: 4 October 2004, 15:38 »
I never actually tried Mac OS X... maybe I'll even buy it now  

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« Reply #86 on: 4 October 2004, 21:14 »
quote:
Originally posted by Fett101:
Good god. Hey, let's gas all the PC users while we're at it. A little genocide by the chose ones.


Yes, I feel the same way.

Actually, Hitler would probably not be a Mac user, since he was always bitter about flunking out of art school in Munich, and held a grudge against 'creative' types ever since.

Hitler would probably run Windows.  He already had good ties with IBM, and in our modern climate, Microsoft is basically the same cold corporate giant IBM once was.  Not to say that they still aren't, but stuff like this is a step in the right direction.

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« Reply #87 on: 5 October 2004, 00:56 »
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No easy networking? It was a breeze for me to get it working.

http://dev.realistanew.com/win32net/


I know about that...it didn't work for me.  Upon turning on ICS, it insisted I change my IP to 192.168.0.1, which I can't, since that's my router box's IP.  I don't have the direct connection.  With Basilisk II, I just needed the MAC address of my card for it to work - no virtual connection crap.

 
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I'm hoping PearPC will let a few PC people experiment with OS X, then come to the realization that they need the real thing.

I know, I really want a Mac.  Panther blows my mind.

 
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Though my elitist side hopes Apple shuts this down come Tiger.

On what grounds?
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« Reply #88 on: 5 October 2004, 01:26 »
quote:
Originally posted by WMD:

On what grounds?



They don't need any grounds.  All they need to do is change something in the OS that makes it not work with PearPC anymore.

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« Reply #89 on: 5 October 2004, 02:02 »
Oh.  I thought you meant sue PearPC.  

(Tiger Dev. Preview works on PearPC already.)
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